By rodger (63.39.63.220) on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 4:20 pm: Tried to start an HD-5G that I bought. It had been sitting for a number of years. Changed oil, drained all fuel, new filters, purged lines, new injectors, etc. in preparation for starting. Timed injectors, etc.
Put propane heater in barn where HD-5 is and gut temps up in good shape.
Engine cranks great, puts out quite a bit of smoke and is just on the brink of starting. It runs for probably 3 seconds after the starter kicks out and dies.
It acts like timing may still be off, but I don't know what it would be. I confirmed there is good air flow through the blower. On my old TD-18, it kind of sputters like this but then kicks in and kind of cleans itself out. I don't think the 2-71 has any valve train advance---or does it?
Suggestions are appreciated.
By enginenut (216.76.151.85) on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 7:56 pm: Roger, sounds to me like the compression is down,but maybe all is not lost.I find that engines that have rested for quite a while and were not in perfect health anyway are hard to start the first time, but if you can get it running for a little while, a healing takes place.I think the sealing oil film on rings and cylinders goes away, then we add a little crud between valves and seats so they leak a little, then we let the oil thicken including the hyd. oil, and the poor old starter just can't spin it fast enough to light the fire.
I have started several balky diesels for the first time in a long time by feeding them a bit of lube oil.Not enough to hydrostatic lock the engine.It actually seems to be more effective than starting fluid in establishing the first light off.
Turning the engine faster will help but often must be done by pushing or pulling the machine.You will be surprised how little movement at a brisk rate will start that engine with lowered compression.The leaks don't have time to hurt you.
I think the best way to oil the cylinders on a
jimmy might be through the air box inspection holes with pistons on the bottom.Can't say as I've done this trick on a jimmy.
Starting fluid tends to wash the oil film away so it can work against you.Good luck.
By rodger (63.39.63.104) on Monday, January 15, 2001 - 8:51 pm:I should have added that when I gave it a shot of starting fluid, it acted like it was getting too much compression---and didn't fire. Yet, after it got the starting fluid blown out, it did act like it wanted to start on the regular diesel. My normal experience with ether is that it causes the engine to fire easily. It acted almost the reverse with the 2-71
By JD (151.199.123.4) on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 10:48 am:Something that I have used to start engines that works fair and may work for you is WD-40 just remove the air filter and apply it like any other staring fluid .
By earl callow (199.190.116.208) on Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 11:53 am:i am looking for master parts and instruction book for ts5 tracto shovel for my hd5g ? any ideas
By Dave Werner (63.30.125.21) on Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 5:49 pm:try www.jensales.com
By doreen braith (206.10.75.125) on Monday, February 05, 2001 - 3:04 pm:How much is a Allis Chalmers H-3 or HD-3 crawler/loader worth these days? It's been gone through with a fine tooth comb, and is in great working condition.
By bill (63.160.255.3) on Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 9:37 am: If the UC is in as great a shape and run as well as you say it does, it should go for 5-10K for the machine and that is on the lower side of the value scale. Comparable sized machines from other non-Cat vendors have been ranging between 12-20K that there are some that are way lower than that too.
The value will be in the condition of the Undercarriage. If has been that well maintained you a price premium may be warranted since you are more likely than not, not to have problems for a long time. Again abuse ect can cut short the life of any machine. I would look for the higher side if it is as cherry as you say. It is a nice small crawler, very good size for acreage guys and small enought to haul around with out needing a huge semi and special hauling permits. They were also closer to the end of the production line for AC so some parts are still out there for the machine that is new.
A great project tractor and you should be able to resell it for what you have in it assuming it does not get ruined, economy fails ... all the rest of the stuff that affects value.
Good Luck
By Eric Nulsen (199.46.200.230) on Friday, March 30, 2001 - 9:45 am: What is the weight of an HD-20 with a cable blade?
Thank You,
Eric Nulsen
By iryncurtain (209.2.188.57) on Monday, April 02, 2001 - 8:43 am: HD4 grousers
Looking for a set of HD4 grousers in 14 or 16 inch width. Does anyone have a set they would part with or know of where I could find a used or new set? I have 12 inch pads currently and would trade up if possible.
Thanks in advance.
By drott (63.160.255.3) on Monday, April 02, 2001 - 7:10 pm:Send an Email to halftrack@ibdozing.com He will know where a set is.
By Half Track (63.163.37.111) on Tuesday, April 03, 2001 - 4:50 pm:How about 14" new one's? Let me know. HT
By Duane Cook (216.67.97.206) on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 11:27 pm:Hi every one! I am looking at a AC model M dozer with blade 1500$ I also may have found two parts model M's for 700$ question, How are these dozers for working, are they as good has a D2 of the same year. also how are parts to find. I did a search on this board and couldn't find any info. Any help would be very much appreicated. Thanks Duane
By D2Tom (209.179.192.62) on Sunday, May 27, 2001 - 1:03 am: Years ago I ran a Model M pulling a 6'9 disc working the same field as a 5U D2 pulling the same size disc. They were about equal in performance.
As far as dozing, I think the M is a little lighter than a D2. I have seen them fitted with big heavy dozers. This extra weight might help. First gear is a little fast. It might be a little tricky to learn to operate, but it should move just as much dirt as a D2.
Buy the parts tractors too. Do any of them have electric starters?
By Rich (12.78.224.10) on Monday, May 28, 2001 - 6:23 pm:i looked at an old allis chalmers yesterday, the owner told me that it dies after about 10 minutes of running, i think he told me it was a 655 1974 or 75 model. I know nothing about these allis chalmers... now with my experience i would say that the fuel return is plugged up, i told him to replace all fuel lines up to the fuel pump. i am hoping that the fuel pump didnt die on this guy, but that could possibly be the problem too, the pads chains and rollers are shot as well as the track adjustment on the left side is there anyplace near new york that sells cheap u/c part i know of that itm out of NJ i think that that is who i will recommend but first things first i need to straighten the engine out for him- thanks in advance
By Edwin Kamerick (207.177.46.11) on Sunday, June 03, 2001 - 2:55 pm:For sale Allis 16000 series engine. Took out of a wheel scraper,not stuck, holds antifreeze ok. Running condition unknown.
By dcochard (206.229.235.113) on Monday, July 16, 2001 - 1:04 pm:I have an Allis HD-9B that the oil pressure goes down when in use and when it is back to idle the oil pressure comes back up. Someone said it may have a clogged pump screen. Any ideas?
By gamccall (146.126.61.241) on Monday, August 20, 2001 - 7:40 am:rebuilding a 650-ac crawler loader need to know where to find parts engine pumps and other parts . thanks gene
By Tom Glenn (64.210.241.103) on Saturday, August 25, 2001 - 8:40 pm: For Sale a GRTO F/A 31 torque convertor with pumps. I am asking $1,000.00 for it all.
Thank you.
By Ken Britton (12.105.7.66) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 4:28 pm:HD5 oil filter source? Does anyone know of good oil filter replacement for the HD5 with the Detroit 2-71 motor? I tried a WIX replacement but the rubber gasket is too small in diameter and oil leaks out from under the cap.
By Mike Wurth (207.49.214.229) on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 8:02 pm:Can someone please tell me the correct battery set up and sizes to buy for my AC HD9B,,,Thanks in advance for your time,,,,Mike
By ro (129.237.241.23) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 3:51 pm:Allis Chalmers HD-5G with a 2-71 GM Diesel. I'm needing a pusher style fan blade. (my engine turns counterclockwise when viewed from operator's seat) and fan pushes air through the radiator to the front of crawler)
By Celeriac (216.28.211.123) on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 4:02 pm:I would appreciate the new and worn limit dimensions for the undercarriage of a K crawler. Thanks
By skip grass (66.52.180.52) on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 8:57 pm: Stuck steering clutches on AC model M crawler:
Anybody know a good way to free them up without dismantling?
By Crawler (209.141.228.2) on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 1:59 am:Does anyone have a good source for parts on hd 5 trackloaders? Any help would be so great. Thanks.
By Ralph Butteris (128.107.253.37) on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 9:26 am:Well, I am finally getting around to changing the steer clutch on my HD4. I 've made a copy of the procedure out of the service manul, so I don't destory the original. Now, I am looking for any advice before starting. You all got any?
By joe zak (216.169.181.182) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:16 pm:is there such a thing as a allis chalmers HD-10?
I have [3] WWII SURPLUS BACK SEAT CUSHIONS. PART NO. #041228 ALSO noted "HD-10". I HAVE PICTURES AND A SKETCH OF THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SEAT. I BOUGHT THEM THINKING THEY WERE FOR A DODGE COMMAND CAR...WRONG! NOW I REALLY THINK THEY'RE FOR A DOZER! can some one help me?
PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT jzak@ceinetwork.com
thanks!
By Carl Balzen (163.234.145.104) on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 2:43 pm: Can anyone tell me the weight of an AC HD5 with a Tractormotive loader. Also where is the build or data plate on AC crawlers.
Thanks
By dieseldave (63.10.1.86) on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 2:14 pm:16,200lbs shipping weight
By Carl Balzen (163.234.147.59) on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 9:21 am: Thanks Dave.
I'm glad I found this site it has been extreamly helpful.
Thanks All.
By dieseldave (63.10.1.41) on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 4:57 pm:Carl, Try the ACMOC BB as well. http://www.acmoc.org/discus/ Even though it's a Caterpillar orientated board there's a lot of good info on there for all sorts of crawlers.
By Phil Speno (63.154.33.100) on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 8:15 pm: Allis Chalmers HD3 loader For Sale.
Engine is out. Have most pieces of engine. Sitting on a 6 ton trailer. Asking $2,500 for machine and trailer. 609-585-3876
By clint knox (64.240.155.205) on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 5:23 pm:i need decals for a 716 HYDRO ac
By Ray Boutin (142.165.47.163) on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 9:23 am:I would like to complement my M-65 Allis Chalmer motor grader by adding a scarifier that was on the machine at one time , The hydraulic ram and controls are on the unit but missing the main ripper frame, frame bars and 7 tooth with retaining keys. Any info would be greatly appreciated...
By C.B.Boyle (216.229.38.65) on Tuesday, May 07, 2002 - 10:45 pm:Yo!....seems a little blah...so
how 'bout some pics of my favorite
16,000lb AC HD6 sinker (in disguise yellow!)
Its really old, wore out but still
pushes dirt. Here's the road we built
(and a copy of our other project)
Later!....how 'bout yours?
CB
By Angela Demay (206.148.144.145) on Sunday, May 19, 2002 - 10:30 pm:HD5G fan belt sizes. Anyone know the size on the 2 fan belts?
By Lee Wise (66.82.32.1) on Tuesday, June 04, 2002 - 1:28 am: Please help,
I buoght a HD21P with a 12 foot u blade and a tr21 ripper about a month ago. The undercarriage is in good shape. New shoes, chain, grousers, rollers, sprockets, and idlers. I also got quite a few spare parts, and in general am very happy with it.
Now, to my problems:
First trouble I am having is if I run it at anything over about half throttle it starts to heat up. I have pulled the radiator and had it rodded, pulled and tested the thermostats, rebuilt the waterpump, and checked the cooling system for combustion gasses etc. IT STILL OVERHEATS!
Next problem is when I got the tractor, it had an extra 12 volt battery installed to run an electric fuel pump. As I understand it, the fuel pump is supposed to run at about 30 to 60 pounds of fuel pressure. The excess fuel being supplied from the injector pump through a reduced orifice to the torque converter, then to a heat exchanger and then returned to the tank. Thinking this might be part of my heating problem, I rebuilt the mechanical pump and got it operating, but i still show very little fuel pressure an the guage on dash, but have very good flow back to the tank in the return line. Also, the books I have show a fuel pump that is driven off the accessory drive, a gear type pump, mine is driven directly off the injector pump. My pump is cam driven and is a piston type pump. The more I read and investigate the more confused I get.
If anyone can shed some light on these problems, please help. Thanks for reading my ramblings, and for any help.
Lee Wise
By Terry Rutledge (65.81.93.10) on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 6:49 pm: I have an Allis Chalmers with serial # HD7G25011.
Can anyone tell me the year??
Thanks,
Terry Rutledge
By Jim HWI (12.148.192.38) on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 7:56 am: I have an HD5G with both steering clutches stuck
Is there a way to free them up without taking them apart.
Thanks
Jim(WI)
By scott leigh (142.176.73.166) on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 8:44 am:would like information on how to adjust main clutch on HD11 and what the lever that runs from clutch linkage to transmission is for
By JEFF BOWMAN (63.170.245.146) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 8:05 pm: I HAVE AN ALLIS CHALMERS HD5 DOZER. I WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE THE HYDRAULIC CYLINDERS THAT RAISE
AND LOWER THE BLADE. I WAS WONDERING WHAT KIND OF
HYDRAULIC PRESSURE THIS WOULD HAVE. I FOUND SOME
NEW CYLINDERS THAT MATCH UP WITH THE OLD ONES
THAT ARE RATED FOR 2500 PSI. WOULD THESE CYLINDERS
BE SUFFICIENT ?
By Merv (203.109.252.20) on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 2:04 pm:Just a test at posting a link.
http://www.google.co.nz/
By Ockert (65.197.92.98) on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 6:33 pm: I have an Allis Chalmer Crawler, HD11. I need as much information on the engine that I can find. The info I have is:
Serial HD11EP110241
Engine Serial HD11 17346
Any info you have will be appreciated.
Regards
Ockert Fourie
By mike tupman (208.19.107.150) on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 12:21 am:Anybody need a set of pads for a model M ac? Have a real nice set of 62 with about 2" of grouser, just cut them off a set of junk chains. Will be going to Brooks show in Oregon if that would help. $300.oo Mike
By Jim Kleeman (205.175.225.22) on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 1:08 pm:Wanted: HD5G final sprocket shaft, outboard bearing and outboard bearing housing. Machine s/n is 20028. Any input is welcome. Post or email jimdiger@aol.com Thanks Jim
By Frank Fox (198.81.17.178) on Tuesday, August 13, 2002 - 11:11 pm:Looking for a grill for a Case model VO. (1941)
Dreaming? I think it is different than an VA? Thanks for any help or information.
Frank Fox foxaero@aol.com Sacramento Ca.
By peter chick (213.122.162.48) on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 3:34 am:I want an allis chalmers Turbo part number 4036398. Where can I go to get one
By pete (67.248.5.4) on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:15 pm: Looking for information on Allis Chalmers M crawler;
Ser. # location(s) and range of value would be most helpful.
I have located an M for sale, motor loose, new cylinder liners with about 25 hours since rebuilt, needs P/B turned but otherwise complete. Has some spare parts with machine.
Any information would be appreciated. Thank you for any help you can give.
Pete
By Brett Barton (208.169.38.97) on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:31 pm:I have an HD5 with worn Idler rails that are collapsing. How do I repair. Also how come I can turn right but have a hard time turning left, I take it I need to do some adjusting, any help is appreciated.
By Lee Lehman (216.70.4.60) on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 9:12 pm:Need help locating some Master clutch spring clips that hold the pressure plate to the outer cover on a rockwell assembly for a 1951 Allis Chalmers HD5 crawler Thanks Lee,
By Roland Groppe (209.2.37.67) on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 8:57 pm:I'm looking for operators manual for Hesston Fiat 665CM, or to comunicate with someone that has done routine maintenance on one
By Robert Case (66.83.52.58) on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:58 am: Hello! Could use some help! Got a HD5G, right side track is off - close to getting it back on but adjusting shaft is froze. Any hints to bust it loose? Which direction to move idler back? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
By Will Powell (63.86.113.131) on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 3:08 pm:Robert, I was going to suggest this list to you. You will get better results if you create your own conversation topic. At the top of all of these notes you will see a button "Create New Conversation" Fill that form out. Curious to see other responses to your question.
By Jeff Burditt (216.73.194.5) on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 9:36 pm:I have a hd6g. I am having trouble keeping the tracks tight. You have to adjust the tracks by turning a threaded rod. Both sides are striped out. One side is welded in place. This side was like that when I bought it. The right hand side was hard to move. After moving it I put spacers in. This did not hold. It moved back to where it was. Do I need to put in more spacers? Or do I have more problems?
By Joe Haffner (66.43.206.208) on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 12:41 am: Can a bad waterpump seal leak antifreeze into the timming gear housing on a 16000H ehgine in a HD-16DP?
The parts book looks like there is a weap hole in the sleave part # 74387050 . What a desigin ?
By Gary (204.251.243.134) on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 2:10 pm:Does anyone know where I can obtain teeth to put on the cutting edge. I've looked and looked to no avail. Thanks, Gary
By wtp8859 (208.165.227.81) on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 10:15 am:I have a 1973 6g loader and the clutch needs adjusting.It has a wet clutch.I changed the filter and topped off the oil.Anyone know how to correctly adjust the clutch?
By jim chandler (216.174.36.28) on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 10:40 pm:1963 hd-11g with final drive problem. have all manuals MUST SELL,BEST OFFER! jchandler59@hotmail.com
By HD5 rookie (66.161.183.83) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 6:10 pm:HD5 runs for first time in years. Ive never heard this engine run before. It sound like it has a knock but also sounds like diesel kackle. I put a steel rod against the engine in different places while pressing it against my ear. I could not hear a clear knock. But stand next to the machine and I hear a knock. Does the 2-71 make such noises normally?
By drott (68.13.164.220) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 9:10 pm: No normally they do not make a knock, they normally sound like they are wound up and going to beat the band. The 271 is a two stroke engine.
When they are cold they are a bit noiser, Detroits of that vintage are very cold blooded and can be noisy for quite a while till they get up to operating temperate.
One thing to do is to warm it up, take off all accessory belts ect. Then run the machine to see if the noise is still there. Make sure that it is not comming from the clutch housing and or the hydraulic pump. If you are short hudralic fluid and or the pump is going bad ou can get a clack noise out of them. Frozen water in lines can do that do in the pump. The pump is attached to a shaft on the crankshaft pully.
Once that is eliminated, change oil, put in new filters and see what happens. Now it is easy to drop the pan off the engine and see how bad the gunk is and if there is any metal in the engine.
The noise could be from a fuel pump going bad, the rotors on the blower are hitting which can happen and that is expensive to fix if you ruin the lobs on the blower.
The first place to look at is pre detonation of the fuel and or the file rack is out of adjustment on that engine as to timing and amount of fuel getting to the cylines. Now that engine has the injectors and control rack in the head. The injectors are available as a reman. You just need to know the knozel tip size. Make sure that the nozel tip is clean and clear
Hope that helps.
By HD5 rookie (216.196.140.141) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:01 am: Thanks for the info I will check all of the possibilities.
I did notice the engine never got hot enough to keep me from touching the head with my bear hand!
I will replace the thermostat and run it again til it gets hot! Hopefully that will cut down some of the smoke too ( stuck rings unburnt fuel)
I do have fresh filters, oil and anti freeze in it.
Also reman injectors and rebuilt blower, lapped valves. I dis-assembled the fuel pump and freed it up. It had locked up due to rust. It did not show much wear so I polished everything and replaced the drive coupling.
I have also had the pan off. It was full of sludge but I didn’t really see any metal. I replaced the rod bearing caps because the crank measured high limit on clearance. I just saw (in the book) that the bottom half of the mains could have been replaced at that time....hind sight is 20/20
We have to replace the check out the trans,ring and pinion and re-install the steering clutches, check out the final drive gears etc. We have a spare machine with gears and motor. Our plan is to go through the whole machine get it to function, run it awhile then rebuild the engine. Right now were just glad she runs!
By HD5 Rookie (65.241.208.106) on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 10:30 am: Bevel gear replacement. HD5G
Is there a way to remove the bevel gear without removing the intermediate shaft after the transmission as the book describes. I have access to all machine shop tools and I could make special tools. Just thought I would ask before I tear into it. Anybody ever tried?
By madcatter (198.81.26.104) on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 5:18 pm:1937 CAT 22 for sale,runs great and has blade & pto winch.$2200 Fasthogy2k@aol.com
located in Yacolt Wa. 40mi. from Portland Or.
By donny neff (152.163.188.4) on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 8:16 pm:I'M looking for a service manual for HD 11 B 1021 also what year is it? it's not in to bad of shape paid 1,400 hundred for her has some track problems not bad just needs a little T.L.C! with some help finding info and parts from time to time by the fall of 2003 she look show room! so any info would be great thanks donny neff grove city OH d067@aol.com
By HD5 Rookie (65.241.208.106) on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 10:20 am:HD5 bevel gear shaft seals. Does anyone know the "National" or "CR" seal part number. I am going to need them this weekend and I would like to pick them up before I dis-assemble...
By tim (65.241.208.106) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 10:16 am: Emergency shut off
What is the normal shut down for a 2-71. The book says to use the E-shut off at an Idle. Should the engine shut down any other way?
By Jim Ganley (64.33.152.160) on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 9:02 pm:I have an Allis M Crawler and am trying to find out what engines from tractors will work in this machine, the current engine is a UM with casting#64020-8
By taz allis (139.134.58.153) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 3:54 am:I have allis HD11EC serial #7361 engine #117362 natural asp 6cyl can any one please tell me the year of assembly and how many horse power the old girl is,I am not sure if its the buda motor the manifolds say allis but it may well not be,any info would be helpful thanks
By Rpeck (64.12.96.8) on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 6:00 am: Increasing Traction of Crawler in Sand
Hi Guys: I am considering purchase of an HD 5G shovel... it has street grousers on it. I want to use the machine to clean up cellar excavations in sand. Can you recommend how I can best proceed to increase its tractive potential in sand. The owner tells me it that it will slip in sand and causes me to think that I should not buy this machine. Any thoughts and suggestions are sincerely appreciated! Thanks Robert Peck in Great Bend, New York.
By James Cadwallader (65.19.12.103) on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 7:13 pm:I need final drive parts for an allis chalmers hd-7. Might buy a parts tractor also if the under carriage was good.
By RO (24.124.48.58) on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 8:10 pm:What general section of the country are you located in?
By Tim (66.161.165.84) on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 6:29 pm: I just bought (HD7W 1945-47) It has a straight Baker blade.
I got a partial book with it, but I still have questions. The support for the blade that attaches by the right rear sprocket, by a shaft is
broken. The shaft is broke. I have a used shaft. The used shaft has only 1 nut on the end. My question is. What keeps this shaft in the final
drive? It looks like if I pull off the outboard bearing and drill and tap a hole in the end of the broken shaft it would pull out leaving the
bearings gear etc, in the housing. Is this correct..The book talks about
dis assembling the finals but not just replacing this shaft..
By Andrew Tutterrow (63.106.153.70) on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 2:35 pm:I have a 844 engine (375 Horse version). The engine has less than 50 hours since new(was a backup for a generator). I would like to sell or trade this engine. I would be interested in Allis equipment (D road grader, HD11, 918 hoe,etc, I would prefer machines in need of repair. ). If you need this engine and you have some equipment contact me and we will work something out. Andrew 765-886-5717
By tim (216.196.140.207) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 5:32 pm: HD7W DOZER. DOes anyone know of a manual that shows the rear axle stack up with a dozer blade. I have parts and srvice but the rear axle with dozer blade is not shown.
I have a broken axle and I am trying to determmine the cause of the break. I suspect loosness in the parts. Any input would be welcome
By pete (67.25.94.160) on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 9:40 pm: Tim, you might try the guys at www.pdmechanical.com or www.crawlerheaven.com
They post here from time to time and have parts for some old crawlers. Also, there is F.P. Smith in California. Good luck, Pete
By BTD (63.151.152.34) on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 5:12 pm:I just bought an HD7 and it was delivered today. The fella said the left clutch was sticking a bit. I guess that was only the tip of the iceberg. Please don't laugh at my obvious newness. I'm used to wheel tractors. I can't get the crawler to turn at all, she did a bit but now won't. She moves forward and back fine. I pull the lever back, and that side stops. Pull the left lever and push the left pedal, she just stops and hitches and shudders. Pull both levers back, dead stop. Read elsewhere about push on a tree to work things loose, left track stops, right track digs in. Did I get a basket case or do I just need to learn about and do some adjustments? Thanks for any and all help!
By K. VanTimmeren (152.163.188.4) on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 6:55 pm: Hi,
I have a couple of questions for anyone who knows. What years were the HD-5s made? What engine or engines were in them? Were there any weak points common to them? Also, were the engines common to any other AC equipment. Thanks in advance.
By Charlie Wolford (170.215.144.75) on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 4:09 pm: Greetings,
I am trying to locate the following for a 1957 Allis Chalmers HD6G track loader (serial# 7397). Used or New.
steering clutch assembly Part # 050244
Clutch Disc friction (Raybestos) Part # 044478
Clutch Disc friction (steel) Part # 624562
Bearing, needle, intermediate lever shaft
Part# 050442
Thanks,
Charlie
By Steve Hedrick (148.78.243.122) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 2:16 pm:I have access to some new injectors for a detroit diesel. They have the #9295 on them. Does anyone know if they will work in my 4-71 in a 50's HD 9 ?
By MIKE (63.169.12.132) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 11:06 pm:Need help adjusting the steering clutch on a FiatAllis FL14C! Can anyone out there help me?
By mike (63.169.12.132) on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 11:11 pm:Any help on adjusting the steering clutch on a FL14C FiatAllis can reach me at mikes@linkabit.com
By tim (66.161.190.242) on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 2:45 pm: I bought an HD7W dozer. Runs and steers great! U/C has 2 bad rollers I mean BAD! the shafts are half worn thru. I have made new shafts have the bearings and new seals on order..
My problem is the right rear axle. I think because the rollers ( also on the right side) were bad and the block and bushing that attaches the rear mount of the blade was also sloppy the axle broke. I got a new axle as part of the deal. Right now I am trying to remove the old axle. I have a book but it does not tell you much about the axle. I have the final drive gear and housing off. I also have the cover off of the bevel gear housing. I can see both ends of the axle and I have removed a set screw that holds it in.
So far I have welded a 1"-8 nut on the broken end and have tried using a jack screw to pull the shaft out. I hasen't budged. My next idea was to put a porta-power or bottle jack inside the bevel gear housing and try and push the axle out.
Anybody else ever remove one of these axles?
By Joe Spell (12.147.58.36) on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 12:25 pm:I have a 1966 A/C HD7G Crawler loader. Everything seemed fine until one day I went out to run it & it wouldnt move in high gear forward & reverse. In low gear foward & reverse it will barely move, hardly enough power to move itself. When I parked it the day before it was running fine. Any suggestions were to start trouble shooting this problem.
By RON WOOD (66.140.113.41) on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:31 pm: Does anyone have any of the following hd10 parts for sale?
071439 18" grousers 32ea
060211 18" track assembly 1 ea
070516 20" grousers 64 ea
031924 20" track assembly 2 ea
By Dave Jensen (209.216.190.200) on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 12:43 pm: HD 6 PTO question:
My dad has an HD6 crawler, recent acquisition. He wants to run his Belsaw sawmill (540 rpm, shaft drive) from a rear pto on the dozer. It used to have a hydraulic pump apparently, seller had a shaft manufactured that comes through a carrier in the back and turns a pump-driver gear box...ho-made pto basically but it's a 3/1 reduction and turns in the wrong direction. We need to know what the rpm the rear shaft would be turning at (straight thru?) and any suggestions on finding a stock pto unit for this machine? Thanks, dj
By Donnie (208.30.136.253) on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 11:23 pm:I have what seems to be a late 50's AC HD5. Runs great, goes forward and backward, but will not turn left or right. What is this possibly worth?
By Will Powell (68.81.48.113) on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 9:08 pm:
By Ken Johnston (66.119.34.39) on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:23 am:Here's a nice old HD15. The deceased owner's brother told me that it had been "rebuilt" just prior to the owner's passing, and that it had a "7G" undercarriage. The fellow said that it was originally set up for scraper work.
By Ken Johnston (66.119.34.39) on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:29 am:
By Will Powell (68.81.48.113) on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 8:40 am:
By Harlan Petty (69.18.20.44) on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:07 am:Want to buy FiatAllis FD20 injector pump, alternator, hoses, oil cooler, engine oil filter assembly housing, to replace fire damage that occured on right side of engine.
By jganley (64.33.152.166) on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 10:52 am:Allis M have 1 running and enough parts to make another also dozer blade would take $1000. for the whole works you can contact me at
jganley@lakeland.ws I am in Cushing, WI.
By Rusty Collyer (209.137.244.175) on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 6:05 pm:Nice Allis Chalmers H3 dozer for sale - I have the info and photos up on my business's web site. My Dad left it to me when he passed away. Located in central Maine.
AC H3 For Sale in Maine
Email or phone with questions.
Thanks,
Rusty
By Rod Barrack (152.163.252.4) on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 8:14 pm:HD9 Serial#1935 What is the year? Curently removing stearing clutches for inspection and posible replacement. Any Idea on a parts source for clutch discs, springs and irons?
By Mike R. (69.21.26.72) on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 9:29 pm:HD5 steering clutchs, how many are on each side ? average cost of the parts to redo a side ? going to look at one tomorrow and would like some brains on the subject. Thanks alot
By Jerry (24.97.76.250) on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:46 pm:Can anyone tell me about the hd20 dozer -- I have a chance to pick one up for $6000.00 -- It has the garwood cable blade with 2 winch drums on the back -- I've seen it in action and the motor runs like new and can push some dirt. the under carraige looks good with new sprockets. Is this a good deal ? I am building a pond and then plan to resell it. Do you think it would sell easily ? Any known big problems with this machine ? What does one of these way with the blade ? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks -- Jerry ( spaz@pronetisp.net )
By gary (66.201.156.156) on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 11:02 am: for sale; allis-chalmers HD 6 blade and "hardnose" assembly with blade lift cylanders
in washinton state. will trade cat parts , or sell reasonable. in very good condition.
509-522-1229
By crawler (65.121.72.225) on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 11:23 pm: Has anyone run across a pto to fit an hd-5?
Thanks for any and all help.
By louie seufert (12.171.32.109) on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 10:06 pm:I need a set of fuel injectors for an allis hd-16 (pre 4000 serial #). The engine is an 844 cid power plant. I think the old Buda 844 is the same engine. any help would be much appreciated.
By Darrell (205.188.208.8) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:37 pm:I am looking for information on an Allis HD16AC, serial #4197, 1959 model with torque converter and constant mesh tranny. The problem I am having is that when the hand clutch in disengaged the tranny will not stop completely to allow for shifting gears. It seems to be hanging up somewhere, and with the clutch inspection cover off, it makes a rattling sound. I have a service manual, but it doesn't cover the torque converter model very well, and I have adjusted the clutch to no avail. I am also looking for a onwers manual, and maybe a parts manul for this crawler too. Also, if anyone knows where there is a ROPS or cab for one of these, let me know. Thanks, Darrell, JR. (MN)
By Jay White (65.164.202.64) on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 7:37 pm: I am looking at 2 HD5 loaders. They are in pretty rough shape. I think both of them run but one has a stuck steering clutch. What should I expect to pay for one of these machines. He wants $2000.00 but that seems a little high for the way the machines look.
Jay White.
By WabcoMan (203.109.254.40) on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 5:09 am:For Sale
Allis Chalmers track type tractor sales literature
from 1950's thru early 80's.
All originals, very good condition, reasonable prices.
Comprehensive list available on request.
Drop WabcoMan an email at muppyt@ihug.co.nz
By Jeff Lee (198.208.6.46) on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 10:17 am:HD-6e D-344 diesel interal engine parts for sale, I have a reground crank >030inch under complete with new federal-mogul bearings, plus other internal parts ,pistons,rods,valve gear etc, plus head with manifold, machine was taken down for overall and not put back together in 1988, rest of machine including engine block has since been sold, located in michigan contact me at Eunicejeff@aol.com
By marc gillespie (65.239.47.16) on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 11:35 pm:i just picked up a 1952 hd5b it has a carco winch mod #ea ser #10665 were can i get so information or manuals at
By Steve (24.55.245.47) on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 9:18 pm:Just bought a 653 dozer but having problems turing right. When I pull the right clutch, the left track moves just enough to take up the slack, but not enough to turn the machine. Sound like it needs an adjustment?? If so, how do you adjust the steering clutch on this machine. This is my first dozer and I'm having a ball with it. Thanks for any help!!!
By tommyr (216.89.55.222) on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 10:40 am:Can anyone tell me the approximate of a HD6C crawler loader. Or approximate size compared to a caterpillar dozer.
By crawler (65.121.72.115) on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 10:47 pm:Does anyone have a cover plate for a 1954-55 hd5 pto-be-gee housing hole? Also does anyone know if begee pumps are inerchangable. Would the pump currently on this hd-5 fit a d-4 with some type of adapter, or are they specifically built for models? And finally has anyone run across a pto unit for an HD-5? Thanks so much for any info at all, I sincerely appreciate any help offered. Crawler.
By Brian J. Bartter (64.214.210.1) on Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 3:06 pm:Has anyone removed the steering clutches from an
Allis Chalmers "L" crawler?
I've been looking for a service manual as well.
Thanks!
Brian J. Bartter
BBar149048@cs.com
920-625-3495
By d7randy (209.63.196.43) on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 7:13 pm:i am looking for torqconverter for hd16 year 1956 with ac buda engine also want to know how to plumb fuel through converter.
By todd marshall (216.196.166.135) on Monday, November 24, 2003 - 12:57 pm:Looking for one or more good sources for HD-5 parts...especially track related parts. Does anyone know why the tops of my tracks, in the front, tilt inward towards the tractor? Worse some times than other times. I do have some slack that I want to take in with new adjusters, if I can find them.
By lvsprouse (208.24.179.29) on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 3:15 pm: Will the undercarriage parts off of a HD9A work on later model HD9s? What about the engine?
Thanks.
Loren Sprouse
913-269-0401
By Stephen Gunter (198.26.126.13) on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 3:14 pm:I am in need of some salvage parts for either a 655B Allis Chalmers track loader or a 653 Dozer? Please let me know if you have any info. Thanks Stephen
By Pete B. (130.76.96.17) on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 9:12 pm:Have a 655 loader, it is a lean mean runnin machine. Was told it is a 1980. Would like to know what engine it has and horse power.
By Peter (64.229.136.181) on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 7:23 pm:I am looking for track pads for my HD 20 dozer. The bolt pattern is 8 1/2 x 7 1/2 x 3 1/2, 24" wide. I am located in Ontario, Canada.
By Rick (152.163.252.4) on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - 6:08 pm: AC 7-G Track Loader
Can anyone tell me what it is worth. It is in decent shape. It also has a grubber blade with it.
By mike kukal (205.188.208.8) on Sunday, December 28, 2003 - 7:40 pm:questions on service manual hd-5 ..are they all the same or are they different for all years?
By Monty Jones (69.72.26.50) on Sunday, December 28, 2003 - 7:54 pm:I have an HD-6G which had a new set of chains installed, then sat for 5 years. Some of the links are frozen, and it makes for a real rough ride. Any recommendations on freeing the pins?
By Brian Scott (161.184.26.49) on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 12:12 pm: Hellow I'm Currantly looking for a service manual or any manuals on the 545B/605B Fiat allis wheel loader. I 've been looking for quite somtime with out any luck.We've been in the prosess of rebuilding this wonderful machine to factory spec.
any Help with this would be wonderful.
Brian
By Johnn Paulsen (209.168.20.13) on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 3:30 pm: I have a HD5G with 2 good Front Idlers $350 each
2 like new sprockets $350 each
1 good transmission $600
2 tracks with street pads $350 each 50 percent left,
Final drive parts ?
1-360-534-9879
1 used 271 Detroit $1000.00
6 new bottom rollers $250.00 each
Rebuilt track adjusters $550.00 each
By Craig Bornmann (216.234.218.225) on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 11:56 pm: Have a HD-5 with several rebuilt drive components. It has a front mount hydralic pump that runs an after market blade. I am trying to find a winch or winch/crane combo to drag trees with. Some guy named "Doc" from back east said many state and municpalties used the HD-5 with this type of equipment. I use this little crawler here in New Mexico to do range and timber management to harvest trees and mill them. I make heavy furniture and this crawler is just perfect. I can't believe how strong the little guy is.
Also looking for a replacement seat. I had a catalog of a business called Tractor Supply that went out of business a few years ago that had replacement seats and arm rests. If anyone can help I would deeply appreciate it. Thank you in advance
By Aaron (68.59.226.88) on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 9:14 pm:Looking for some help on an HD-5: My father has a 55 in need of some work. He does not have the tools to do this job himself so I figured I'd see if anyone near him can help. The spring on the adjustor will not push the idler back when the idler is forced rearward under pressure. This is what he thinks... He believes the idler bracket is either shimmed to tight or the shimms are rusted?? Basically if your making a turn under pressure the track will loosen up but will not return back to its normal position. He could do it by himself 40 years ago but not at this time. He is located in the Hartford Connecticut area. Any help would be appreciated.
By Brian Scott (161.184.29.151) on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 10:11 am: We recently rebuilt the injectors(Two not cracking just dripping) on a 545b Fiat Allis wheel loader a wonderful machine but now it is very Very hard to start, runs for about 30 sec and quit's.Once you get it going it seems to be ok, starts good after it's warmed up.We check the fuel pressure and pump relef going back to the tank all is Ok.The engine Sin Is 8065-24-091-757778.Any help on this would be great,We would like to Time the engine but don't know what the timing is suppost to be. Thanks For any info
Brian
By taz allis (144.139.80.73) on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 6:08 am:can any one please tell me the bearing numbers cup and cone [timikin]for hd 11ec track idler part number #073112,#073111 thank you taz allis
By mikehaberman (209.163.38.109) on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 1:30 am:8550 and 4w-305 ag tractors use a destroked 844 engine, but cranks areno longer available. right before they (cranks) were discontinued there was a kit with diff pistons and crank to make engine 13.8L instead of 12L. does anybody know if constrution crank will work and what type of nose and frt pulley are used?
By mikehaberman (209.163.38.109) on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 1:33 am:8550 and 4w-305 ag tractors use a destroked 844 engine, but cranks areno longer available. right before they (cranks) were discontinued there was a kit with diff pistons and crank to make engine 13.8L instead of 12L. does anybody know if constrution crank will work and what type of nose and frt pulley are used?
By Abel Chavez (207.248.41.254) on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 9:14 pm: I need renovate a piece urgent!!
part no. 70628310 of item number 17 pinion(20 teeth)
part no. 73108108 of item number 1 Gear (48 teeth)
both correspond of model crawler loader 7G-B of revised catalog in november of 1976
By Steve (24.55.245.47) on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 9:34 pm:Does anyone know where I can get a steering clutch pressure plate for Allis Chalmers 653 dozer?
By Steve (24.55.245.47) on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 9:38 pm:Does anyone knoe where I can get a steering clutch pressure plate for an Allis Chalmers 653 dozer???
By tim (216.196.180.58) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 5:45 pm: I am rebuilding a dump cylinder from my Allis Chalmers HD-5.
It has a 2 part piston. V-ring in front part, bearing ring in back. The parts book shows the two parts tight together with a shim under the v-ring packing. (no instructions on how to set shims)
My question is how tight should I make the v-rings to the cylinder wall. I have new V-rings and no shim so I have to set it up from scratch! If I stack everything up finger tight I have about .125 gap between the two parts of the piston. When I slide the cylinder on, it rubs all around the cylinder wall but not tight.
I figure I'll tighen the the two parts until I'm satified with the fit then dis-assemble it and make a shim.
anybody ever rebuild one of these before??
How tight are new cylinders?
By Hedrick (148.78.243.121) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 3:50 pm:I was given an HD-9 by a friend of mine if I could get it out of his backyard. He was using it when the front idler bearings went out and the track came off and broke a link. The dozer belonged to his father and they got into an arguement over it. The dozer sat 12 years until the father passed away and they tried to sell it at auction. They didn't get any bids on it, so the son was going to cut it up for scrap. After he said I could have it, I put new fuel in it and two new batteries and it started right up. There was a stuck injector and it wanted to run full blast. I fixed that and my son and I worked for a couple of weeks off and on to put the track back on. The guy that gave it to me had new links, pins and bushings to fix the track. The father had already had the bearings fixed in the idler and it was in the garage waiting to be put on. The pics are of the dozer after I cleared the brush and cut down the tree that had grown up between the blade and dozer. I have since brought old girl home and have used it a few times. The only thing wrong with it now is a stuck left hand steering clutch. If anyone can help me on how to fix this, I would appreciate the info. I have already tried the paint thinner in the clutch technique and it hasn't worked. I will send in some more recent pics when I get them. 
By Hedrick (148.78.243.121) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 4:07 pm:Here are three more pics of the HD-9. Oh by the way the muffler was rusted away on the engine so I had to make a new one. If anyone is interested I could explain how I did it. 
By nutz-n-bolts (12.32.93.132) on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 3:11 pm: Hedrick,
Looks like you got a great deal. As for your clutch, it looks like you may have to pull it out. The solvent trick is the only one I know of and if that doesn't work you have to pull it. I just pulled mind from my HD5. It wasn't too bad. The hard part comes when you find out the prices for all those new disks you need, and look out if you have to replace the throw out bearing. Are you going to restore it?
By hedrick (148.78.243.122) on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 4:49 pm: nutz-n-bolts,
I do plan on restoring it to a degree. I am going to repaint it, but this is a farm dozer and not a show piece. The engine seems to run well and starts everytime. Someone has put an alternator on it and it isn't working so I will probably replace it or have it fixed. I also can't get it into all of the gears. The hi/lo works and I can get it into two forward gears and two reverse, so it still works ok. I was pleased to see that the hitch pin and the hold down was sitll in place. I kind of assume that the tilt blade was added later or do you think that was factory installed ?
Steve
By chuck (64.94.14.86) on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 11:09 am:looking for a allis chalmers model d or dd grader in mn.
By wayneb (4.137.17.171) on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 7:57 am: How many teeth are on the BENDIX of a starter for a 2-71 detroit?
The facts are confusing me.
Every reference I look at, for 2-71 states the starter has 11 teeth.
12 volt, 11 teeth CW rotation.
However, when I pulled mine, it had 12 teeth. And yes, it was starting fine.
11 teeth? 12 teeth?
The starter # in my book is Delco Remy 1109114. My starter is a 1109114.
So should I buy a 12 tooth replacement like the one in it or 11 tooth as every reference I can find on 2-71 units?
Wayne
By Tim (65.241.208.106) on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 10:21 am:Nice HD-5 on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=25250&item=3812903536&rd=1
By John de Marrais (209.23.31.197) on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 8:59 pm:Wanted: Rear mount PTO assembly to fit my HD6. I think the unit off an HD5 will be the same.
John de Marrais jdemaris@capital.net
By Tim (216.196.207.213) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 5:18 am: HD5 Value $$
Next time somebody asks what an HD5 dozer is worth, The answer is $5600, really clean straight machine with good U/C and a winch.
By Steve Leland (216.228.43.104) on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 9:07 pm:I am looking for A nice original AC HD19 for my personal collection. Please let me know. Thanks for your time. (406) 486-5462.
By Nathan (68.79.145.102) on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 1:37 pm:I currently puchased an HD-5. I am having some problems with the engine. It has the Detroit 2-71. Only one cylinder will initially fire ( I got injectors checked and both are in good shape). After about 5 minutes the other cylinder will start. The latest development is that it is blowing white smoke out of the exhaust and the crankcase. It is building up pressure in the crankcase. I thought maybe moisture getting in the engine from the head. I pulled the head and found one cylinder was rust color and the other black. The gasket was partially cracked in one spot and was installed backwards(I have no idea why, but one of the coolant ports was blocked because of this). I got a new gasket and installed it and there was no change in running condition. I would apppreciate any help with this problem.
By Rich wessels (66.43.215.143) on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 4:37 pm:I have an HD7g that won't turn. I have done some testing and am not getting pressure from the steering pumps. Steering pumps share a common sump with trans pump and torque convertor pump which both work. When I bought the crawler there was mickey-mouse setup on the sump line to prime the steering pump which the seller used to get the crawler to steer. This option does not work now. Any ideas or offers to buy would be greatly appreciated.
By dan (66.170.70.37) on Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 2:39 pm:can anyone tell me how much a 1977 fiat allis weighs
By dan (66.170.70.37) on Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 2:39 pm:can anyone tell me how much a 1977 fiat allis 11 b weighs
By Ove Ternstedt (62.127.42.122) on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 9:10 am:Sweden calling!
HD6G loader -68 need to repair steering clutch.
Present (old)type steel&fiber. Replacement type is steel&steel as prevoius told in ibdozing. Will there be any problems if left side is steel&steel and right side is steel&fiber.
What are the plate thickness on the new "insideteeth"-disc and "outsideteeth-disc in the clutch? Numbers of each?
"Doz" anyone know?
Ove Ternstedt,e-mail ove@ternstedt.com
By mike lesosky (207.216.52.66) on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 12:53 am:i'm looking for a service manual for a fiat allis fl9 loader new or used thanks
By michael J kukal (205.188.116.15) on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 7:47 pm:HD5 Iam in need of and air cleaner my has rotted through. Does any one know of a conversion? Possible changing to a dry filter? Thanks Mike
By Dave (66.140.86.140) on Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 5:15 pm: Need to find a repair manual for a TD8E
need to test and work on convertor. Doe4s anyone know where I might be able to get the manual?
By Jeff Jones (192.231.71.2) on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 3:31 pm:I have an HD5 with idlers that are worn out (tracks lean in). Rib is good, but bearings are shot in both. Has anyone rebuilt these lately? Are parts still available? Any idea of costs? Thanks in advance.
By John Paulsen (209.168.20.83) on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 8:35 pm:I have 2 HD5G Front Idlers, both are in great shape, if interisted email me at allisandbuda@thurston.com John Paulsen
By Albert Meng (70.16.70.27) on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 10:15 am: I have a HD 16 AC ser# 283
The hydraulic rams on the blade leaks and I've been told by a hydraulic shop that even if they replaced the rams it will still leak as there isn't any seal or wiper to stop it from leaking?
Has anyone got any good suggestions how I can fix this problem?
I'm also looking for a decent radiator as mine has had a few tree branches pushed through it over the years and it's getting close to the time to repair or replace it.
By Andy Hancock (148.78.249.33) on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 12:53 am: HD-5 Track adjusting screw.
I have 2 HD-5 tractors and both need track adjustments. But I've been unable to break loose the adjustment screws. I even had to cut the lock flange bolts....they were rusted so badly. I have wrapped the screw with rags soaked in penetrating oil with no success so far. I sure would appreciate suggestions.
By David Rice (65.54.98.112) on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 1:40 pm: I took out the grease fittings on my 6G & kept spraying PB Blaster in the fitting for about two weeks I also sprayed it inside the yoke where the threads are. I got lucky & they came loose but I did use a 4ft pipe wrench.Hope this helps
David Rice
By RO (24.124.50.203) on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 7:39 pm: Hello,
I have also had success using Kroil liquid in a grease gun and benifitting from the gun's pressure to force in the Kroil. I did this with a rust-frozen shift rod on an HD-5G transmission. I drilled/threaded a hole in the tranmission casting and installed the grease zerk, then used the Kroil. Worked great to loosen the shift rod.
By Ron Clarke (66.118.25.250) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 6:22 am:Regarding an Allis-Chalmers HD11B crawler dozer, does anyone have any manuals (parts, service, operator's) that they would be willing to sell or make a copy of??
By Dave Chester (64.12.116.8) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 4:44 pm: I am working on a HD-11 dozer for the club i belong to and we removed the engine oil hoses to replace them. To make a long story short on of the members got the elbows all mixed up on me and now i dont know how they go back together or where they go. any help would be great. a picture would also be worth a thousand words. i beleive it is a 1950's hd-11 with a hydro blade and i beleive a AC diesel engine.
thanks
By Will Powell (68.83.254.146) on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 10:19 pm:Manuals can usually be found at www.jensales.com or through ebay.
By dennispang (202.156.2.154) on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 3:32 am:I am looking for caterpillar forlift model dp-50 operator manual for my reference. Please let me know. Thanks for your time.
dnskp@yahoo.com.sg
By jtk (65.221.158.193) on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 12:35 pm:Does anyone know of a 918 loader backhoe. Looking for one repairable or running.
By J. Bibb (24.217.122.230) on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 11:52 pm:Wondering if anyone knows about Monarch crawlers? I could use some information on a model 50. Could use information on what gauges they made. Approximate weight. ETC. Willing to buy manuals or pay for copies. Thanks! John
By Bobby Martin (69.66.95.185) on Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 8:35 am:Does anyone know where I can get a transmission pump for a Fiat Allis 11B power shift with a part # 005-14509 on the front of the pump housing.
By David Bruski (209.142.215.56) on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 4:16 am:Don't know about the part you are needing,
but, changing the subject, I need lots of
topsoil near Leonard if you might know of
any available. -Bruski windancer@wwnet.net
By tim (65.241.208.106) on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 10:24 am: Allis Chalmers Triangle
Does anybody know then AC started using the triangle shaped logo? I found a loader in a field and no house in sight. It is a 6 cylinder about the size of a International 175B. It is a power shift and has a roosamaster injection pump. I can't find a model number anywhere on it.
It has the triangle logo on the left side of the hood.
By Terry Taylor (144.138.21.120) on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 11:11 pm: Have a HD10W and need a couple of new track rollers but unable to locate any in Australia.
Can I use track rollers from say, a HD9 OR HD11, or maybe another make?
Anyone tried this or got info. Still using the HD10 on the farm for earthworks and tree clearing.
Need info soonest. Thanks
By Richard W. Hendrix (209.43.113.146) on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 7:00 pm:Trying to find an old crawler to rebuild. It doesnt need to be running, or even have a good engine. But at least complete from the trans to the tracks. It can be very rough but it should be under $1000 US dollars if it is really rough.
I can arrange transportation to rid you of that eyesore!
Richard W. Hendrix r_w_hendrix@hotmail.com
2729s 850w
Westpoint, Indiana. 47992
(765) 572-2988
By Steve (66.8.189.29) on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 12:15 pm:Hey Guys...recently purchased an old HD6 with only 1300 hours on the frame and about a hundred on the engine. Noticed that the right clutch takes a hugh amount of pressure to make it work and was wondering how to adjust it. The left seems to work very well...so I'm thinking just adjustment. But maybe it'll need replacement. Can one still buy new clutch parts? Thanks in advance for any help!
By Avary (142.165.115.100) on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 11:32 pm: my hd5 does not turn to the right.it does but i really have to put pressure on the break to get it to turn.hope someone can help.thanx
Avary Chevrier
By Wilson Walley (212.39.161.19) on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 8:02 am:I recently bought an HD 11 B. I have been using it and getting a feel for it and I like it. I noticed that "Sawmill" had checked a serial number for someone in a previous post. I have looked and looked and I cannot find a place to reference my serial number to the year and model. My serial number is 25L16615 and any help would be greatly appreciated.
By Half Track (65.64.178.123) on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 8:57 am:This info is not written in blood. One book says the 25L started with #12,000 in 1968. If I go to a book that just lists 11-B's & look just at #'s it's a 1971. Best I can do. HT
By Avary (142.165.116.110) on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 9:52 pm:Hi.I recently bought hd5 crawler loader. It runs fine but...it does not turn to the right very good. It go's straight left and backword very good. IT doesnt turn to the right very good. I have to put lots of pressure on the right brake for it to turn. Sometimes it does turn and sometimes and most of the time it does not.can someone please tell me what might b wrong.
By David Rice (206.158.179.94) on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 9:22 am: (HD6G)serial 13780 I would like to rebuild a 6000 series engine. Is this a Allis engine or did some one build engines for them. Also where do I find parts.
Thanks, David Rice
By denith (205.188.116.203) on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 8:41 pm:my dad bought a 1974 fiat allis 11B Dozer where can he find out how much horsepower it has.... i tried looking in the net but now luck please help!
By Okieboy (68.89.198.253) on Friday, December 10, 2004 - 12:06 am:I am looking for Allis power units, either E60 or UM units. Also need starters and gear drive generators off of E-60 power units. If you have any give me a shout at 918 789 3293 or drop me an e-mail with your phone number
By jose rivera (201.128.169.135) on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 7:18 pm:would you mind to help me to find service manual of komatsu forklift fuel injection pump.I Cant give the specific number of the injection pump but theres a number inscibe in the injection pump body 4544-20/132810 and engine N 15156XA 5.this forklift is used one when my company buy it.
By jose rivera (201.128.169.135) on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 7:20 pm:would you mind to help me to find service manual of komatsu forklift fuel injection pump.I Cant give the specific number of the injection pump but theres a number inscibe in the injection pump body 4544-20/132810 and engine N 15156XA 5.this forklift is used one when my company buy it.
By Scott Baumann (69.179.79.78) on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 7:02 am:Which HD6G parts fit an HD5G? I have many bad rollers, and could use new sprockets as well. Are they interchangeable on these machines?
By shatski (216.51.171.164) on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 6:58 am:Want to buy: Looking for a good Fiat-Allis FD-14E...must be in good condition.
By jddriver (68.86.145.209) on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 10:30 am:I need to get the hydraulic pump for p/s and clutch rebuilt on an hd 11.The pump is letting engine oil into clutch.Has anybody got agoog builder in mind Thank-you Steve
By David Ashton (63.195.101.226) on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 7:01 pm: I have an old Allis Chalmers HD-7 tracked dozer. Wondering about some basic questions and looking for some advice.
Does anyone know the years the HD-7 were made?
Who made the motors for the HD-7 Dozers? What is the HP rating?
What is the weight?
Did they ever come with winches, and if so, what was required to operate the winch?
When it was last parked, it did run, but I think we have a electrical problem. Its a positive to ground system. I'd like to get it back operational.
1. Can anyone describe the basic electrical ignition system for me so I can check to see if it works.
2. Can anyone suggest methods to wake the diesel engine. For instance with a gasoline engine, I would pour penetrating oil through the spark plug holes to break the pistons free. Any advice would be helpful.
By alan627b (68.96.131.203) on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 6:06 pm: Dennis Spang, call the Midland Press at 1-800-228-7821. They are the authorized manual reproducer for Cat. See if they have what you need.Good quality reproductions, unlike Jensales.
That would be your last bet. You might also contact your loacal cat dealer, sometimes Used Parts has manuals they get with dismantled machines. Hope this helps,alan627b
By David Ashton (63.195.101.226) on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 6:26 pm: 1943 AC HD-7.
Is there any way of testing a starter assembly, both top and bottom, to see if it works? The manual says it has a plunge pedal, but ours seems to have some sort of toggle switch and I can't seem to get the starter to make any noise at all, and I know I am getting at least some current to it.
By Christer (217.208.59.162) on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:58 am: HD16DP
What type of oil is to be used in the bevel gear and clutches
thanks
christer
By MountainLady (216.78.64.11) on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 1:01 pm: Set the timing on HD6 4cyl? Diesel Help PLEASE
Has 6 way hydraulic blade NOT cable. Trying to set the timing on fly wheel and govenor, what is the degree to set TDC?
If I asked this in mechanical terms right? Trying to help desperate husband.
Thanks in advance,
The MountainLady in MS.
By Verlin butcher (170.215.142.8) on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 2:39 pm: hd7 track loader for sale no motor and radiator needs recored.
hd6 fuel injection pump rebuilt with less than 1 hr run time.
Call anytime (956) 793-9160 cell
Home (304) 392 5470
(304) 392 5219
(304) 646 2152
By Kelleys Equipment sales (68.186.89.6) on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 12:09 pm:hello; I offer a HD9 farm crawler FOR SALE.
located in south east Washington state.
equiped with rear 2spool hydraulic's& enclosed cab with presurizer, and radio.
also available but NOT INSTALLED on crawler are
a used "hardnose complete with swivel cylanders
LIFT TYPE" & a original equipment Aills Chalmers staright blade.....
offered for sale= $3950.00
call 509-522-1229 or email gjkelley@charter.net
By joe (63.161.221.94) on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 9:29 pm:looking for hd-6 tracks
By Kenneth Smith (66.82.9.61) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 6:18 pm:For sale compleet 2-71 engine out of a HD5 runs good 40 psi oil it was a pull out of a machine used for other parts.
I am in missouri $1000 OBO shipping around $1 per mile
660 429 3654 or email klsmith92@direcway.com
By kenneth smith (66.82.9.61) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 6:22 pm:Looking for a EX/INTAKE manafold for a H4 loader with a gas motor
Also looking for another HD4 or a H4 loader in good condition
ph 660 429 3654 or email klsmith92@direcway.com
By pat (69.161.38.135) on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 11:27 am:Hi I have a allis chalmers 653 dozer I need steering cluthes and a decal kit all filters ph# 802 447 0450 thanks pat email patbodyman@yahoo.com
By Jay (67.43.118.110) on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 5:52 am:HD7G Value? Looking for approximate value for 1967-69 HD7g. It is in working order. Any guesses??? Old man who owns it says he wants $6000. Thanks
By Tom R (205.188.116.203) on Sunday, March 27, 2005 - 9:14 am:HD5 cheap!!! with loader. I just want to get this out of here. It is in good shape, needs brakes which I have new lining and the clutch may be stuck. It does roll easy. The engine only has about a thousand hours on it. If you have a way to haul it, I will all but give it away. I am in PA. email me roof1974@netscape.com
By Rocky Lear (65.144.8.175) on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 5:52 pm:Wanted! Transmission for HD6E. Owner claims it is a three speed forward and two reverse. Can anyone tell for sure if we can put a 4 spd. or 5 spd. with one reverse or two out of say an HD5 back in this machine? What does it take to fit? If you have anything for sale please email me:
rockylear@bigplanet.com
Rocky
By Rod from IL (69.210.215.66) on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 11:01 am:Need oil filter help. I have an HD 5 loader I just bought and I'm having problems finding an oil filter. The filter has AC P111 written on it however when I contacted my local Agco dealer he is not able to cross reference the filter with anything. Can someone please tell me where I can order a few oil filters and the part number. If you can provide the fuel filter part numbers that would be great as well. Thanks Rod
By Rod from IL (69.210.215.66) on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 2:19 pm:Does anyone have an exhaust manafold for an HD 5 loader for sale or know where I can get one, along with gaskets. Thanks Rod
capi75rs@yahoo.com
By Steve (63.186.0.172) on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 10:34 am:Does anyone know what the manufacturer calls for as for as bevel gear oil on an A/C HD11 powershift. I believe it was built between 1965 and 1968. Thanks! Steve
By Stephen (137.1.212.12) on Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 7:18 am:I have a Allis Chalmers 655, same as HD4 and I am getting transmission fluid into my rear end. #1 does this hurt anything, pinion gear, ring gear ect. #2 Has anyone heard of this and what the repair was? Thanks stephen
By Marvin C. Long (216.189.133.120) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 10:27 am:I have an HD10W allis chalmers crawler with 4-71 detriot,garwood hydraulic dozer, carco winch. This crawler runs, does not steer very well and undercarrige I do not belive to be very good condition however I have ben useing to do some landscaping. Would like to sell unit or possible part out if there is enough intrest in the parts. Asking $3200.for complete unit located in northern Minnesota. You may contact me by e-mail. Crawlerhd10@yahoo.com
By Big C (216.196.206.222) on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 11:24 am:844 Buda motor...I have an 844 buda style motor I am pulling out of an HD16AC....If anyone would be interested let me know...I think is had a spun rod but the motor is clean and the heads have been redone.
By scott in wa. (130.76.32.15) on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 2:23 pm:testing 1,2,3,4,
By lance hill (64.136.49.227) on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 3:29 pm: Fiat Allis 8 Crawler. I am currently trying to rebuild the transmission of a fiat allis lpg 8 crawler. So far I am having NO luck in finding any parts at all. If ANYONE has any information as to where I may find parts PLEASE let me know.
Thanks
By Chris Davis (65.41.100.129) on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 2:03 pm:Have an HD-6G track loader, looking for a bucket, possibly one with teeth. Also looking for a shaft for the clutch fork on a HD-5 dozer
Contact at 239-940-2251 or e-mail at jicaseboy@hotmail.com
Thanks
By Jeff Jones (192.231.71.2) on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 12:17 pm:Does anyone know where I can find a radiator cap for an HD5? Any help appreciated.
By cm311loud (67.137.193.252) on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 3:48 pm:hi, great site here. i'm new here and new to dozers. my father is looking at an hd15h with the serial number 254 for a little project we have going on. i was wondering if anyone would be so kind and date this machine for us. we are thinking around 1960 but there just isn't enough info around for us to say for sure.
By alan627b (68.96.131.203) on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 6:50 pm:Thought you Allis Chalmers fans might appreciate a parts source.
http://www.illiniparts.com/
alan627b
By Tracy Wells (207.112.82.15) on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 10:33 am:My uncle has a 945B Fiat Allis 11 yard front end loader for sale as well as another available just for parts. He would like to sell both together. He is located in Western KY about an hour north of Nashville, TN. Does anyone know the best place to advertise such equipment? I am trying to help him liquidate a lot of his inventory as he is getting ready to retire. He also has a Vermeer Diggin dutchmen trencher, a Case W14 loader and a new never used Hitatchi Track Hoe with 0 hours. Any help on where to sell them would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Tracy
tracy@stdio.com
By Bill Frazier (216.78.13.194) on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 6:52 am:I have an HD11B serial# 11137 Could someone tell me the year of this machine. I am also looking for an aircleaner assy for this dozer w/ a 10000 series A/C engine. Engine enclosers and sprocket covers would be nice too.
By Bill Frazier (216.78.13.130) on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 3:11 pm:I am also looking for brake bands for both sides for HD11B11137 dozer. These bands are dry as are the steering clutches.Contact me at mrbill44@bellsouth.net
By T Faul (130.76.32.15) on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 2:06 pm:I have a Allis Chalmers Model "M" gas powered dozer. It has sat for a few years prior to me buying it. I was moving it and it started to sputter and died. I found rust in the sediment bowl. It was flooding gas out of the intake so I pulled the carb and cleaned it out, and added a fuel filter. I can't get it to start. Can anyone provide the intial settings I should have the idle and mainjet adjustment needles set at? It will fire on 1 cylinder and die. It has had a recent set of points installed in the mag. Next step is some new plugs. Anyone have any ideas what I should check? It ran great prior to this? This is a hand crank model, and I have gotten plenty of practice trying to get her to go!
By Pete (69.108.43.1) on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 4:14 pm: The manual only says that turning the idle adjustment screw IN makes the mixture RICHER.
For mainjet adjustment it is the opposite, turning the screw IN makes the mixture LEANER.
I would try turning the Idle and Mainjet screws out 1 to 1 1/2 turns as a starting point. Also be sure the butterfly stop screw is adjusted so it will idle. Good luck, Pete
By T Faul (130.76.32.16) on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 2:53 pm: I will try to see what happens with the settings as you recommend. I had them both set at about 3 turns out. It idled fine prior to this happening so I left the butterfly adjuster alone. I think there may be a problem with the mag, or the plugs, so I am going to also put new plugs in as well, and check for a strong spark. I had pulled the plugs and tried some either with no results. Will keep you posted
THANKS PETE!
By William Canon (66.178.221.45) on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 7:21 am:I need a service manual for a 87-88 Fiat Allis fd5
By T Faul (130.76.32.15) on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 1:21 pm:Just wanted to let you know I got the Model "M" fired up. I cleaned the carb out again and made sure all passages were clear, made sure it had spark, put in a new set of plugs and she lit off on the 3rd crank. I think that all these older machines should definatly have a replaceable filter added to the fuel system in additon to the screen and sediment bowls most came with. Debris and rust in the tank were my main problems. Now I am onto some track maintenance. THANKS for the help!
By Mike (67.126.22.61) on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 10:24 pm:I have a near new (under a 100 hours) 371 and also a 671 from gen-sets I am selling. Contact me at wurthmilling@tds.net located in No. Ca
By Greg Buxton (66.43.37.206) on Tuesday, September 06, 2005 - 10:57 am:I have a HD-7G serial 24475 with a clutch that won't release. It is a wet clutch. When I tore into the machine, I found that some bolts were missing that bolt the clutch assembly into the drum and others are loose. Several bolts had loosened so much that they were sheared off from the turning of the drum. Would this cause the clutch to not release. It seems to me that the clutch would just slip constantly. Any thoughts before I go any further. I'm hoping I can replace the bolts and loc tite them without removing the track and sprocket.
By Ron S (65.209.67.252) on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 11:07 am:HD5G - I need to replace the left side steering clutches in an HD5. Can anyone comment on the approximate cost of materials and investment of time?
By gary (68.186.89.48) on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 9:13 pm: I have a HD6/ LOADER tracktor For Sale, located In North East Oregon. has New batteries, batterie cabels. Protective Canopy, drawbar ,
starts and runs good.........make a excellant "snow mover", or loader for small acreage. asking $5995.00 obo.........
call day's; 509-301-5735 or eve's 509-522-1229.
By lsartin (12.162.182.183) on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 8:37 pm:I have a 931 traxcavator when I shut her off she was running fine but now won't start i added fuel, blew out the line, and checked the filter but still won't start. I have heard they are really hard to start if run out of fuel but I think something else is wrong. Do they have a pump on the line some where to pump up not the fuel pump but a line pump?
By Denny Madigan (67.121.5.178) on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 6:20 pm:Wanted: Fiat Allis Model 31 final drive machine is located in Hollister, Ca
By Rick/mn (64.90.76.163) on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 6:22 pm:I have a lot of AC manuals - service, parts and operators. Just recently ran across a couple of original operators manuals for HD-19, and one for HD-21. Give me a shout with your needs. 218-851-2629
By J GREGORY (152.163.100.6) on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 9:22 pm:IVE GOT A HD4 WITH A BAD BUDDA,IS THERE ANY BODY OUT THERE THAT KNOWS IF I COULD STUFF A SMALL JOHN DEER 4CYL NAT ASPIRATED DIESEL?? I MIGHT ALSO BE INTERESTED IN SELLING. HAS @80% UNDERCAIRAGE COMPLETE HAS BEEN SITTING FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS THANKS.
By LittleIron (203.164.128.125) on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 1:08 am: I have a chance to obtain a small old FIAT crawler
which has a steering wheel & cable blade.Looks interesting,but has bad engine.
Can anyone tell me about this thing,or give an opinion about it?? I would like to get it home & mainly just drive it around the block on weekends.
Sorry,I don't have many details as yet.....Thanks.
By HMSTRAUB (70.247.252.72) on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 10:36 am: can anyone tell me the maximum height of the bucket pivot point of a fiat-allis 545b?
Thanks
herb
By dale kerker (216.138.28.245) on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 9:03 am:I am parting out several allis and fiat allis machines. They include FD30, 21C, 21B,21P, 16B, 10B dozers and 262B scrapers. Call 217-392-2548
By Peter Malone (69.143.65.255) on Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 5:02 pm:I just bought a hd5g and I am changing all the fluids and need to get oil and fuel filters for but don't know where to get or order, also have no nubers to reference from. The fuel filter is on the side of the block, and the oil filter is next to seat on the side of the machine, looks kinda big. Any help or number would be greatful.
By Dan-IL (12.147.63.126) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:42 pm:To Peter Malone: I have an 1957 HD 11b and had the same problem w/ AGCO. My parts number were on the canisters and I was able to cross with fram,wix, and baldwin filters.
By Dan-IL (12.147.63.126) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:57 pm:I have pulled the steering clutches on a 1957 HD11b SN#4403 in order to replace one of the drive hubs which was broken on the rt side and have one broken brake band at the welded loops. But it appears as i need to rebuild the left clutch for sure and possibly the right clutch which i haven't disassembled. I do not have the part numbers for the discs. Are they the fiber discs or the bimettalic and require 15 w/ two being tapered according to service manual(specified thickness .152-.157 and mine are at.125). The steel disc measure out Ok from what i could measure. i have to get a proper caliper to check for sure. i bought the dozer last year and has worked wonderfully except right now. Repainted it orange this spring. i'll have to send pictures when i get it going again.
By hector gemme (69.156.160.70) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:20 pm:HI The plates less.132 thick must be replaced.HECTOR
By Dan-IL (12.147.63.126) on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:57 pm:Thanks Hector I did find out I needed the metallic discs. Also have not got the drive hub pulled. trying to locate a puller that isn't too long to fit in the housing
By hector gemme (69.156.163.151) on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 3:38 pm:HI I have some hd11 stering cluch parts and more. HECTOR
By Dan-IL (12.147.63.126) on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 10:50 am:Hector I sent you an email. Thank you. Running discs into Spfld, Il to see cost for resurfacing. The old allis proving grounds use to be next the town I'm from and one mfging plant was in Springfield IL until the early 80's
By ALBERT GUERRERO (144.141.194.3) on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 12:56 pm:HI I AM IN THE NAVY. I AM STATIONED ON A SMALL ISLAND AND HAVE NO PARTS BOOKS. I HAVE A 1984 FIATALLIS MODEL #FL14C; ENGINE 8205/03/531; CHASSIS 14C1T. I NEED PART NUMBERS FOR THE SEALS OR REBUILD KIT FOR THE CLAM SHELL ACTUATORS.
By Brent Whiteman (64.71.113.198) on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 2:22 pm:I have a 12G AC track loader that has engine trouble. I have called and looked everywhere for service manuals for this unit and can not find any listed for it. I've been pulling my hair on this problem and can't fix it.
By hector gemme (69.156.166.63) on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 3:04 pm:HI The 12g has a 11000 engine and I demolish a complete 12g 2 year pass and still have some parts.HECTOR
By Stan Seaman (65.69.162.210) on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 7:02 pm:I need the undercarriage specifications for a AC HD6E, with 37 plates, 1961 model.
By Brent Whiteman (64.71.113.198) on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 7:16 pm:Thanks Hector, I sent you an e-mail on what happen to the loader.
By Sonny Climer (65.7.41.185) on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 8:22 pm:HD16 Serial Number HD16DP7006, Engine Serial Number 1606850. We're going to part this machine out or sell it whole. It'll be cheap,cheap, cheap parts. Machine runs good, transmission pulls good, undercarriage fairly good. Has right hand final drive out. If your interested in parts, let me know what you need and what you want to give for them. You can email me at farawayranch@hotmail.com or call Sonny at 731-967-9904 or 731-307-9020 (cell) Thanks for your interest. Hope some of these parts can help somebody.
By Miller69 (208.201.236.52) on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 9:44 am: I'm looking for a 6way for my HD3. Anyone have one they want to part with on the west coast?
Thanks, Justin.
Northern, Ca.
By moparfever (64.30.117.26) on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 9:29 am:Can anyone tell me the year of this dozer? Serial# 91875. Supposed to be an HD11S. Does that sound right. Anything special about an "S" model? Thanks.
By jhunter206B3 (71.162.44.117) on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 9:51 pm:Does anyone know where to get sproket segments for a Fiat Allis HD21B?? Is there anyone out there that has parts for them?? I was looking at a 1979 model and all the parts people tell me to stay away from them because you can't get parts...
By Chris DeStefano (24.151.50.162) on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 3:14 pm:Hi I'm looking for parts for an Allis Chalmers(Fiat Allis) HD7GB. I need a Rear Ring Gear (Bevel Gear) and the Bevel Pinion Shaft that comes out the back of the transmission.(If someone has a 7GB transmission that has not been broken down, that has a good pinion I would be interested.) The model I have is the later 6 cyl. model and the parts are not the same as those on the earlier HD7G. Please let me know if you or someone you know has this part.
By hectorgemme (69.156.167.197) on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 4:03 pm:HI I HAVE THE BEVEL GEAR BUT NOT THE PINION.
By Chris DeStefano (24.151.50.162) on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 3:50 pm:Thanks Hector. I may or may not have a friend giving me the gear. So I don't need it yet. I'll keep in touch in case I do, but I really need the pinion (part #70667743), so if you know anyone let me know. I have a parts machine with the same problem so I would be willing to trade parts off of that. Thanks
By Nyoest (65.245.164.195) on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 8:05 pm:I have and older HD 7 and I believe I need to remove the steering clutch for an overhaul. What is the best way to remove the pinion? The manual I have shows a large slide hammer that threads on to the shaft. We don't have anything like that, is there an alternativew way to do it?
By Nate (66.243.218.122) on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 5:49 pm:Does any one Know the weight and HP of a FD 14E dozer?
By Chris Davis (64.251.147.66) on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 7:30 pm: Hello all,
I have a HD-5 dozer, that I am repairing the clutch on. I sent the pressure plate and clutch disc off to get redone. When the came back I tried to reinstall both items, I found that they would not fit. I beleve that they made the pressure plate and clutch disc to thick. I was wondering how thick the pressure plate is suppose to be and the clutch disc. Thanks for any help.
By Joshua Juday (64.136.49.229) on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 4:29 pm:Hello everybody. My name is Josh and this is the first I have ever really been on this site. I have a 1966 HD-4, 6-way blade and 403 winch. I bought this little brute about 6 years ago and have put it to good use since. If I can figure out how put pics up I will. This is a great site! Josh.
By Donald Jones (67.142.130.19) on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 6:13 pm: I am thinking of purchasing a fiat allis. Is is a D7 A1T. other numbers>>> 251614...8065105...28700lb...
possibally 89-92 model???
Machine seems to run good. Any info on this dozer?
asking price is 12,000
Is this a good price?
By Todd8ball (66.82.9.65) on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:29 pm:Wanted Air compressor oil pan and bracket for Fiat-Allis 260E series A or 945B Loader? Also looking for the block heater that bolts into the water jacket of an oil cooler on right side of engine 21 or 25K.
By Jimmy V. (69.85.152.55) on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 8:43 pm:I'm looking at purchasing a Fiat Allis FL20, mid 1980's model. Does anyone have any info, good or bad, on this model loader? Thanks, Jimmy.
By eddie Livengood (71.2.27.137) on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 7:32 am:I have a HD 6 with a cargo winch. How hard is it to remove and install on a HD 5 G ? Thanks Eddie
By Great90wt (72.35.47.143) on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 6:36 am:Hi All. Trying to learn as much as I can. I have an HD7W, according to the serial. Like the other fella's post, my left side does not work. I took the clutch cover off and watched the clutch housing. With the right lever back, the crawler stops, the left drum continues to turn but does not drive the crawler. Pulling the left clutch back, it still turns. Do I have a bad itermediate gear and clutch? Do I have to tear the left side apart to fix? Thanks!
By cdestefano (64.251.53.81) on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 9:03 am:Hi Im looking for Allis Chalmers/Fiat Allis HD7GB Crawler Loader tranny parts. I need a bevel gear (rear ring gear part# 70624636), and bevel gear pinion shaft(the transmission out put shaft part# 70667743). If you have a complete 7GB transmission I would also be interested. Please let me know.
By Leanne Dormer (24.166.33.9) on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 2:20 pm:Where could I find a repair manual?
By bill (170.215.179.130) on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 12:17 am:check out Ebay and see whats there and also you can try www.manualsrus.com and see what they have or email them they can tell you if its available
By Rod (205.161.0.3) on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 2:45 pm:I have an HD5 loader/crawler that has oil in the radiator. I checked the crank case and no antifreeze is in the engine oil. I was pushing dirt on a hill side and just happened to see the oil around the radiator cap, the crawler was not blowing any white smoke and no noticable oil is missing from the crank or hydrolics. Any ideas would be appriciated, I'm pulling it in the machine shed this weekend.
By Rodger McDonald (142.165.115.206) on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 7:34 pm:Have A Fiat Allis FL14E crawler loader for sale.Has 3+ yard bucket and ripper. Runs excellent. Located near Melfort, Saskatchewan Canada
By Rodger McDonald (142.165.115.206) on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 7:38 pm:Have A Fiat Allis FL14E crawler loader for sale.Has 3+ yard bucket and ripper. Runs excellent. Located near Melfort, Saskatchewan Canada
By Terry Robinson (82.148.96.68) on Saturday, May 20, 2006 - 2:52 am: I need to find a couple of thermostats for a Fiat Allis 14C Dozer with a Fiat 8205 engine.
Any suggestions for a source would be appreciated
By Joshua Scott (209.161.166.48) on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 11:43 pm:Land clearing in Alaska. There is a agricultural area in the Copper River Valley where three different owners have three Allis Chalmers HD 16's working to clear the land. I own one and its kind of neat to see these old machines still in use and getting the job done. If anyone cares I'll take a picture of them working together. Two of them are two serial numbers off. Anyone know how many of these HD-16's were made? Also if anyone could tell me what year my HD 16D serial number 5658 is, I would appreciate it.
By C rys Reed (71.33.26.247) on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 10:31 am: Recently bought A-C M100 motor grader. While using our 'new' grader this last Sat we broke an axle. Need left rear axle-parts. DARN we aren't finished with road building yet.
Am getting manuals from a posting from '03! I contacted the gentleman wondering if he was even still at the e-dress which he is!, and he still has what I need and is sending them soon. Small world. Thanks for any help on this one.
By Crayton Guhlke (207.118.67.245) on Monday, May 29, 2006 - 2:09 pm:Josh--your HD16 should be 1962, # 5448-5731 are 1962. Starting with # 101 in 1955 until 15521 in 1981 I guess 15420 were made. Would like to see pictures of land clearing. Have two HD11,s and HD6, also had HD15. Good tractors. Too bad they didn't use cummins engines years ago, there probably wouldn't be any yellow tractors today. Also would like to find a ROPS for an HD6 somewhere in the northwest if I can. Good Dozin.
By kentedge (168.166.38.15) on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 9:11 am:I need a belly pan for an Allis Chalmers DD3899SS Part# 222781 if anyone knows where to find one please e-mail me at kentedge@hotmail.com.
By CRhoades (70.232.90.141) on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 7:42 pm: Looking for any information on rollers for an HD11B (1956 - Serial 1824), specifically in the midsouth area near Arkansas or Tennessee.
Any information on rebuilding the rollers, or contacts for rebuilders, parts, or new would be most welcome. We've been looking for a while, but haven't had much luck.
Thanks for any information,
Charles Rhoades
By Bill in Wv (170.215.179.13) on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 8:48 pm:I listed salvage yards a couple days ago click on Last Week then on the message I left there. You may want to get new from www.Berco.com as they are aftermarket parts.
By scott (69.29.86.204) on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 7:47 am: Fiat-Allis FL9 I need information on the model of engine in this....I think I need a used head for it......anyone have any ideas on cost.
Scott
By scott (64.91.127.191) on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:27 am: Fiat-Allis FL9 I need information on the model of engine in this....I think I need a used head for it......anyone have any ideas on cost.
Scott
By joey douan (69.73.67.193) on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:39 pm: Does anyone know if parts will interchange between a HD11 hydraulic operated dozer and a HD11 cable dozer? I have the hydraulic one and answered an ad selling "a HD11 " for parts.
the owner says it is cable operated with wide tracks.
will the tracks interchange? radiator? drive train?
By hector gemme (69.156.166.100) on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 5:14 am:HI If the cable one is not a serie b the parts are interchangable.
By jmccahill (207.200.116.72) on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 11:46 pm:I have am Ateco Slopeboard that is made to bolt up to an HD-21. Anyone interested please contact mccahilldozing@aol.com. It is in great condition and comes with the hydraulic cylinder. I was thinking that $ 1,500 was a fair price but I am open to offers. Its located in Central California.
By Trevor Scharf (205.200.31.124) on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 10:12 pm:I have many parts to fit older HD11 tractors. Anyone interested can contact me at laztys@hotmail.com Parts are located in southern Manitoba
By al harlow (205.188.116.196) on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 6:23 pm:selling 2 hd41 dozers i fd 40 at auction july 22 alex lyon auction at durham pa all excelent cond.
By AL HARLOW (205.188.116.196) on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 6:38 pm:2HD41 dozers with 3 shank rippers 90 percent ucFD40 98 PERCENT UC BEING SOLD AT DURHAM PA. ALEX LYON AUCTION JULY 22
By Bob Norris (69.174.80.136) on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 4:09 pm: Hello,
I have a chance to aquire an HD 11 at little or no cost. I was told it needs a bull gear on the right side. Any suggestions on where to find one and how hard it is to install?
By kane hobbs (68.220.124.34) on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 6:38 pm: radiator hd7
looking for a radiator for my hd7.I think it is an hd7w..it has 371 detroit.
By Stan (65.69.162.210) on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:22 am:I'm looking for a root rake for HD6, 8 ft blade. I'm located in NC Missouri.
By John717 (192.206.176.202) on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 12:15 pm: I have a AC HD6G ser# 15396, with a wet engine clutch that I am in the process of reviving. The oil in the reservoir for the engine clutch is just below the intake hose for the supply pump. There is no pickup tube within the housing and reading the dip stick shows that the oil level is just right. I noticed this after replacing the supply hose due to being cracked. My question is: Should there be a pickup tube or is the dipstick wrong and I need to fill the reservoir up with more oil? I am afraid to run the machine for fear of burning up the engine clutch until I figure this problem out. Thanks for any help.
John
By drott on Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 8:32 pm:Ibdozing Is Back and On line
By Rosalina Smith on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 1:35 pm:I have a 545b wheel loader s/n 21c4567 I'm looking for service manual or information for the injector pump timing. She quit on us last friday, changed the fuel pump and got it to run enough to get in the building. She won't start at all now, called my parts guy and his supplier, had a tech in but he's not familair with Fiats. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'll keep checking the site or email mail me @ mousefan84@hotmail.com Thanks
By ACEd on Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 8:42 am:Dozer Blade Question - HD6B
I have a 1972 HD6B with a 6CG angle blade - seems like its too much blade for the dozer power. Its about 12 feet long and has manual angle change (3 position = hard right, center, hard left). Any suggestions on better blade - anything with hydraulic angle control for a dozer this old?
By oshodi on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 3:55 am:i need fiat allis 345b front axle pinion and bebble urgently.contact me
By jim green on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:27 am:I have an hd 15 crawler. It has a 671 detroit Power Steering, dd drive tran. model number is HD15A 1685. It also has a front mounted winch to operate the 12 foot blade. can someone please tell me if this tractor is worth anything it is in excelent cond.
By jim green on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:41 am:I have an hd 15 crawler. It has a 671 detroit Power Steering, dd drive tran. model number is HD15A 1685. It also has a front mounted winch to operate the 12 foot blade. can someone please tell me if this tractor is worth anything it is in excelent cond.
By H2 on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 4:46 pm:I need a cutting edge for a 10 foot Fiat Allis 11b Blade. Any suggestions on where to get this?
By H2 on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 4:01 am:I need a cutting edge for a 10 foot Fiat Allis 11b Blade. Any suggestions on where to get this?
By Edgar Brown on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 9:21 pm:I have a HD9B which han't been running in a few years. Now it starts fine but wants to run wide open. Its probably a stuck injector, but what do I do from here?
By Edgar Brown on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 9:23 pm:I have a HD9B which han't been running in a few years. Now it starts fine but wants to run wide open. Its probably a stuck injector, but what do I do from here?
By capi75rs@yahoo.com on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 9:18 am:I need an exhaust manafold for HD5 loader/crawler. Would also like the muffler any help would be great.
Rod
capi75rs@yahoo.com
By mike on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 8:43 pm:hd5/6,how difficult to work on?? Id love to get an old allis hd5/6 loader with the old detroit however i realize that it would need alot of maintenance/ fixing etc.. would it be realistic for me to be able to do most work or would i be paying a mechanic all the time. im not a mechanic but i have some mechanical ability and i wouldnt mind turning a wrench when needed.. what do u guys think??